Haven't you omitted one rather important group from your analysis: Zionists?
I'm not at all convinced that Hamas are controlled by Quds. The attack on Gaza looks more like a Zionist false flag to me, yet another problem-reaction-solution scenario, where the solution is the razing of Gaza and the genocide of the Palestinians, all a convenient distraction from the imminent financial collapse of the West.
You're right. I'll handle the Israel issue superficially because it is a highly problematic enviroment.
Moreover, you mentioned other scenarios, like the displacing of the Palestinians from Gaza to Egypt through a major false flag operation. I know this thoughts but for now I stay with my assessment for several reasons. If one weighs up the pros and cons of such a false flag I think, that Israel has to lose far more then to gain in case of failure.
But no one of us can know currently. That's why I also can only speculate.
Soon, we will know more. Exactly as with the Prigozhin case. We need to wait, observe and pray for the people. Especially, for the children.
Of course, another aspect of the planned "solution" and distraction might be a US attack on Iran. I think this is quite likely, even though it's crazy. The US is so close to collapse, what does it have to lose?
I also subscribe to Tirion's comment. There must be a clear distinction between Jews as a whole and Zionist jews. The state of Israel was created under deceptive auspices by Zionists and with a sole purpose: to occupy as much land as possible, by any means. One should dig deeper into the subject of creation of the state of Israel to fully understand that the Zionists never had the intention to share a life and the land with the local population. And those that enabled them to reach their goals never cared to protect the locals from the Zionist actions.
I understand the polemic and why you don’t want to discuss, but I think is a topic that deserve some attention.
The problem with the 3000 years argument is that perfectly we could go 3100 years more into the past and send the Jewish to Iraq.
The main problem with zionism is that they mix ethnic and religion, probably intentionally.
Nobody can convince me that Netanyahu or Bar Refaeli are Semitic people, as the original inhabitants of Judea were.
The actual descendant of the Judea original Jews are the Palestinian people.
This is consistent with other territories. For example in Al Andalus 90% of the population were the original Celtic Iberians just converted to Islam, called mozárabes.
Later they converted back to Christianity.
From my point of view a jew is a human being that follow a religion called Judaism.
And no religion give you right to a land. Should Christians reconquer Constantinople and kick out million of Turkish living there?
Inhabitants of Israel have nationality of USA, Russia, Ukraine… they have homes, lands, etc there. They have the opportunity of live and prosper there in the same way as a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim…
Inhabitants of Palestine don’t have nothing more than Palestine. They have live there for centuries and millenniums. They have nowhere to go, they have no other place to live.
It’s their land.
How would current inhabitants of Israel feel if a group of Chinese with a remote jew ancestor would use it as a justification to kick them out and create their Chinese Jewish state?
I don’t hate jews, I understand the pain the suffered in Germany.
But the punished people should be Germans not Palestinian.
For me, no religion is justification for Israel.
Israel could have been based in Bremen, kicking out the Germans there and give the state to Jews.
Same happen in Kaliningrad. Why not to do the same for the Jews.
That would be a fair solution. Steal lands of Palestine not.
Of course, arriving to this point kick out all Israel is not the way to go.
But who has the “moral reason” has to be recognise for a long peace.
Only solution is that Israel retreat and give back territories, and also pay economical compensation to build Palestine.
Gaza and Cisjordania has to be connected and Palestine needs to gain all lands from Gaza until Cisjordania, all frontier with Egypt.
Palestine also need to receive full Jerusalem.
Israel can be based around Tel Aviv.
This is the only way for a real peace.
All other ways will end with the destruction of Israel sooner or later. It does not matter how much it tries or how many nukes it get. They are 10 million Jews against 1000 million Muslim.
And those Muslims will not allow to lose their most sacred church
Additionally, as Christian I don’t want the Salomon Temple to be rebuild. The Messias of the Jews is the Antichrist of the Christian and will appear when a new king appear reigning in Jerusalem
According to some sources, fewer than 2% of "Jews" are genetic descendants of Shem. The average Palestinian has more semitic DNA than the average Israeli!
It gets more complicated because - similar to Catholics and Protestants in Christianity, for example - not all "Jews" are the same. In Israel, Jews are divided into four subgroups: Haredi (ultra-Orthodox), Dati (religious), Masorti (traditional), and Hiloni (secular). These groups inhabit distinct social worlds characterized by their own lifestyles and politics. In the US, the major religious streams of Judaism are Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, and Reconstructionist.
And then there is the Sabbatean cult, who in the seventeenth century formed the Illuminati with the Rothschilds and the Jesuits and formed a plan to take over the planet. Some say that the NAZIs are a Sabbatean psyop/hoax, and part of this plan. So it's complicated!
If the West had a moral hangover following the Holocaust, and probably they should have, then they could have created a Jewish state in Germany, or handed over North Dakota. Not authorized the seizure of land inhabited by a third party.
For that matter, Theodore Herzl favored settling basically uninhabited lands in Argentina.
nah they nuked Japanese civilians, imported top Nazis into OSS/CIA, overthrew a dozen democratic govs where the people wanted socialism, and went around claiming victory after doing a fraction of the actual fighting and dying. No moral hangover whatsoever.
Take away the Holocaust and most of Israel's justification would go with it.
Which is why Israel apologists continually return to the subject of the Holocaust. For that matter, many get rather butthurt at any suggestion that this wasn't in a class by itself as a genocide, or that it wasn't solely targeted at Jews.
“It was impossible to establish a Jewish state right in Arab lands, recognize it and let destiny take its course.”
LOL😀! Like it was really possible to establish a Jewish state (actually a Zionist state) right in the middle of Christian European lands! Furthermore, Arabs and Jews coexisted peacefully in the Middle East BEFORE the European Zionists arrived. In fact, they are both Semitic people and it was only the Europeans, whether Eastern or Western Europeans that bore hostile resentment toward Jews for centuries and persecuted or discriminated against them. Your entire interpretation of history is based on Eurocentric biases and distortions!
You're mixing a lot of true facts, which I absolutely endorse, with a lot of emotions which leads to wrong assessments. That's exactly what I wrote at the end of my article. Keep a cool head. It is important these days or we all would en up eating each other.
Good article and agree with most of what you state. Except that the UN is a worthless institution, mostly a tool of the Western hedgemon. As you stated it was the UN controlled by Western elite, especially Great Britan, who created a Jewish State called Israel smack dab into an Islamic Arab territory and without consulting the people who lived there. . Not only that the 2 State compromise was never enforced. Unfortunately, a greater war, which is progressing, is now looking like the only solution. We here in the U.S. have to figure out a way to get rid of our own corrupt ,criminal, illegal elite and restore some semblance of what our founding Fathers envisioned.
I agree the UN is mostly worthless these days. The G7, G20 and BRICS+ are where more interesting things are happening. I'm thinking as the world evolves to multipolarity, more discussions and solutions will take place at these more decentralized conferences, especially since there are no veto powers. :-) For instance, I can't imagine the recent G20 statement on the Ukraine-Russia War ever coming out of the UNSC.
I don’t think you can separate the religion and ethnos from the state when it comes to Israel. It is a Jewish state.
Even for many non religious Jews still have an affinity for Israel because it is THE Jewish state.
From that perspective, and especially in times of crisis, the reaction of most is to support it, mostly unconditionally. That is on a human level understandable.
However, that’s why people group non-Israeli Jews with those living there. It’s not an irrational assessment and is born out by the facts.
Last thing, it was actually the strategy of the Zionists to scare Jews living abroad into moving to Israel, otherwise the project would have died on the vine. Theodor Hertzl the “father” of Zionism in no uncertain terms said so and was willing to accept the loss of Jewish lives for it. To him the holocaust was a gift that keeps on giving - to this day.
Great writing. Thank you for your valuable analysis. Enjoyable reading every time! What I can not wrap my head around is how someone can create a nation (Israel) because the suffered during WW2 (not saying the did not!) and impose something like that to the people living there. Gypsies and other minorities and nationalities suffered a lot during the WW2. Nobody gave them a country. Do we have any further reading on this matter. Google provides too short and very limited answers at glance.
I think it’s similar for the many Americans who despise the neo-cons in the US who are also ideologues - ideologues have no place in Democratic governance - impractical theories have no use for real-world problem solving.
Hi Aleks. You didn't mention the Nakba or Israeli's theft of Palestinian land, ongoing for 75 years. Consequently, this recap of the enmity between Israel and Palestine is not at all objective.
You're right. I couldn't, unfortunately, write down the whole history in detail. I wanted to make a quick overview.
But you’re absolutely right. The Nakba was absolutely part of this violent and wrong creation of the state of Israel. I highlighted that in my text, without mentioning the Nakba explicitly.
There are issues that go beyond geopolitics between the Jews and the Muslims. The major one is that the site of the temple is where the Al-Aqsa mosque currently rests.
How are they going bro rebuild the temple with the Mosque there?
It is my understanding that Israel has two known nuclear options - Jericho (targeted strikes) and Sampson (launch everything). I don’t understand the Gazan strategy. When they launched their attack they had to anticipate a disproportionate response against their civilian population. This appears to be phase one of a multi-phase plan. For instance, the Ford has been sucked into the arena and a second carrier group is being dispatched. Iran doesn’t have ICBMs so enticing commitment of US strategic assets into striking range might be a goal. That’s one possibility - there are several others. Israel can’t maintain their current level of mobilization for more than 60 days without long term economic damage so the clock is running
And finally (really this time) the ball is in Israel’s court. Depending on what they do next we could have a good or the worst outcome, for them as well.
I’m also still not 100% convinced that it was just Hamas being great at breaching Israeli barriers. Israel was warned by the Egyptians and if it took months of not a year to plan the operation I’d be surprised if Shin Bet or the Mossad didn’t sniff anything. Their reaction time was also too slow even if we allow for deterioration in readiness of the IDF.
Too many loose ends but I can’t rule out that Israel (Netanyahu) was aware and let it happen, regardless of the risks.
Remember, we use a Hebrew word (Chutzpah) to denote utter brazenness of action for a reason 😉
I also tend to believe that Mossad knew something. At least bits and pieces. Maybe not the whole picture. But who knows. We'll see. I have no idea. I only know, the situation is highly dangerous.
One last point, I checked the map of resolution 242. It still has Gaza under Palestinian control.
This unsustainable. It’s Transistria all over again. And you if you try to deprive Palestine of sea access would put them at a severe disadvantage which will start things up again (assuming they accept giving it up in the first place).
Then there’s the issue of Jerusalem.
On the face of it, it looks like resolution 242 solved everything but in reality and looking at it after everything that happened in the last 56 years - it hadn’t.
There would still be more discussions and negotiations to bridge the gap
Thought no 1 may be of interest: Mossad must have known something. They may have erred on impact analysis and/or timing and/or magnitude, but they must have caught some hints. It is even possible that Mossad would rather let it happen now, before the US would become tied up in Taiwan and be exposed as even weaker than thought so far. (I do not think so, but I do acknowledge that it is a possibility). On the whole the timing of this operation reeks, even if no direct "order" was given from anyone of the usual suspects.
I agree. Mossad must have known something. You mentioned one scenario, which is possible. There is also a possibility, that Mossad didn't know about the scope and scale of the whole thing and didn't assess the severity high enough. Who knows? I don't know, yet.
Haven't you omitted one rather important group from your analysis: Zionists?
I'm not at all convinced that Hamas are controlled by Quds. The attack on Gaza looks more like a Zionist false flag to me, yet another problem-reaction-solution scenario, where the solution is the razing of Gaza and the genocide of the Palestinians, all a convenient distraction from the imminent financial collapse of the West.
You're right. I'll handle the Israel issue superficially because it is a highly problematic enviroment.
Moreover, you mentioned other scenarios, like the displacing of the Palestinians from Gaza to Egypt through a major false flag operation. I know this thoughts but for now I stay with my assessment for several reasons. If one weighs up the pros and cons of such a false flag I think, that Israel has to lose far more then to gain in case of failure.
But no one of us can know currently. That's why I also can only speculate.
Soon, we will know more. Exactly as with the Prigozhin case. We need to wait, observe and pray for the people. Especially, for the children.
Well said, Aleks.
Of course, another aspect of the planned "solution" and distraction might be a US attack on Iran. I think this is quite likely, even though it's crazy. The US is so close to collapse, what does it have to lose?
The current downfall of the Western empire goes much faster than I anticipated. Hence, everything is possible. But I really don't know. We'll see.
Well you're very hopeful if I may say.
I also subscribe to Tirion's comment. There must be a clear distinction between Jews as a whole and Zionist jews. The state of Israel was created under deceptive auspices by Zionists and with a sole purpose: to occupy as much land as possible, by any means. One should dig deeper into the subject of creation of the state of Israel to fully understand that the Zionists never had the intention to share a life and the land with the local population. And those that enabled them to reach their goals never cared to protect the locals from the Zionist actions.
How can you say that it was the right thing to do to create Israel stealing territories from the native inhabitants???
If Jewish suffered so much across the history, why they didn’t receive a piece of land stolen from the people who made them suffer?
The winners could have given the Jewish people a piece of Germany, so that Germany get punished and Jewish has their “country”.
Palestinian people didn’t commit any crime against Jewish but they were deported, loose their houses, lands, everything.
That without even counting that most Israel Jews are Europeans with Jewish religion. To have a religion does not give you the right to have a land.
Why nobody gave land to gypsies? They have been as punished across history as Jews
Descendant of original Jews are for sure Palestinians.
Israel is nothing more than a modern Acre Kingdom
Right. The topic is too controversial to go into details.
I would always do that with you. I know you read my blog for some time. Thanks for that.
But here, I can't discuss that with you. I hope you understand that.
I will give you a small hint.
The history of Jews/Israelis and Palestinians didn't start 1947/1948 but almost 3,000 years ago.
Both have equal rights to live at that place.
Only the implementation was absolutley wrong. It was a crime and I wrote that in my article.
I understand the polemic and why you don’t want to discuss, but I think is a topic that deserve some attention.
The problem with the 3000 years argument is that perfectly we could go 3100 years more into the past and send the Jewish to Iraq.
The main problem with zionism is that they mix ethnic and religion, probably intentionally.
Nobody can convince me that Netanyahu or Bar Refaeli are Semitic people, as the original inhabitants of Judea were.
The actual descendant of the Judea original Jews are the Palestinian people.
This is consistent with other territories. For example in Al Andalus 90% of the population were the original Celtic Iberians just converted to Islam, called mozárabes.
Later they converted back to Christianity.
From my point of view a jew is a human being that follow a religion called Judaism.
And no religion give you right to a land. Should Christians reconquer Constantinople and kick out million of Turkish living there?
Inhabitants of Israel have nationality of USA, Russia, Ukraine… they have homes, lands, etc there. They have the opportunity of live and prosper there in the same way as a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim…
Inhabitants of Palestine don’t have nothing more than Palestine. They have live there for centuries and millenniums. They have nowhere to go, they have no other place to live.
It’s their land.
How would current inhabitants of Israel feel if a group of Chinese with a remote jew ancestor would use it as a justification to kick them out and create their Chinese Jewish state?
I don’t hate jews, I understand the pain the suffered in Germany.
But the punished people should be Germans not Palestinian.
For me, no religion is justification for Israel.
Israel could have been based in Bremen, kicking out the Germans there and give the state to Jews.
Same happen in Kaliningrad. Why not to do the same for the Jews.
That would be a fair solution. Steal lands of Palestine not.
Of course, arriving to this point kick out all Israel is not the way to go.
But who has the “moral reason” has to be recognise for a long peace.
Only solution is that Israel retreat and give back territories, and also pay economical compensation to build Palestine.
Gaza and Cisjordania has to be connected and Palestine needs to gain all lands from Gaza until Cisjordania, all frontier with Egypt.
Palestine also need to receive full Jerusalem.
Israel can be based around Tel Aviv.
This is the only way for a real peace.
All other ways will end with the destruction of Israel sooner or later. It does not matter how much it tries or how many nukes it get. They are 10 million Jews against 1000 million Muslim.
And those Muslims will not allow to lose their most sacred church
Additionally, as Christian I don’t want the Salomon Temple to be rebuild. The Messias of the Jews is the Antichrist of the Christian and will appear when a new king appear reigning in Jerusalem
According to some sources, fewer than 2% of "Jews" are genetic descendants of Shem. The average Palestinian has more semitic DNA than the average Israeli!
It gets more complicated because - similar to Catholics and Protestants in Christianity, for example - not all "Jews" are the same. In Israel, Jews are divided into four subgroups: Haredi (ultra-Orthodox), Dati (religious), Masorti (traditional), and Hiloni (secular). These groups inhabit distinct social worlds characterized by their own lifestyles and politics. In the US, the major religious streams of Judaism are Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, and Reconstructionist.
And then there is the Sabbatean cult, who in the seventeenth century formed the Illuminati with the Rothschilds and the Jesuits and formed a plan to take over the planet. Some say that the NAZIs are a Sabbatean psyop/hoax, and part of this plan. So it's complicated!
https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/01/were-nazis-greatest-hoax.html
https://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2019/09/1666-revisited-robert-sepehr.html
Your not going back far enough. Try going back to Ishmael and Issac.
Well, obviously, yes.
If the West had a moral hangover following the Holocaust, and probably they should have, then they could have created a Jewish state in Germany, or handed over North Dakota. Not authorized the seizure of land inhabited by a third party.
For that matter, Theodore Herzl favored settling basically uninhabited lands in Argentina.
nah they nuked Japanese civilians, imported top Nazis into OSS/CIA, overthrew a dozen democratic govs where the people wanted socialism, and went around claiming victory after doing a fraction of the actual fighting and dying. No moral hangover whatsoever.
Take away the Holocaust and most of Israel's justification would go with it.
Which is why Israel apologists continually return to the subject of the Holocaust. For that matter, many get rather butthurt at any suggestion that this wasn't in a class by itself as a genocide, or that it wasn't solely targeted at Jews.
“It was impossible to establish a Jewish state right in Arab lands, recognize it and let destiny take its course.”
LOL😀! Like it was really possible to establish a Jewish state (actually a Zionist state) right in the middle of Christian European lands! Furthermore, Arabs and Jews coexisted peacefully in the Middle East BEFORE the European Zionists arrived. In fact, they are both Semitic people and it was only the Europeans, whether Eastern or Western Europeans that bore hostile resentment toward Jews for centuries and persecuted or discriminated against them. Your entire interpretation of history is based on Eurocentric biases and distortions!
Even though you are criticizing my assessment, again, I appreciate your view.
And I understand where you are coming from. There is truth in it.
Thank you.
PS: You might want to formulate your criticism a little more “objective” 😊
You're mixing a lot of true facts, which I absolutely endorse, with a lot of emotions which leads to wrong assessments. That's exactly what I wrote at the end of my article. Keep a cool head. It is important these days or we all would en up eating each other.
Which should NOT happen.
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Good article and agree with most of what you state. Except that the UN is a worthless institution, mostly a tool of the Western hedgemon. As you stated it was the UN controlled by Western elite, especially Great Britan, who created a Jewish State called Israel smack dab into an Islamic Arab territory and without consulting the people who lived there. . Not only that the 2 State compromise was never enforced. Unfortunately, a greater war, which is progressing, is now looking like the only solution. We here in the U.S. have to figure out a way to get rid of our own corrupt ,criminal, illegal elite and restore some semblance of what our founding Fathers envisioned.
I'm writing currently about your founding fathers 😁
Most likely I'll finish the piece today. Then it will go into re-checking and editing and then I'll release it.
I guess, you'll like it;)
And thanks, I appreciate your comment.
I agree the UN is mostly worthless these days. The G7, G20 and BRICS+ are where more interesting things are happening. I'm thinking as the world evolves to multipolarity, more discussions and solutions will take place at these more decentralized conferences, especially since there are no veto powers. :-) For instance, I can't imagine the recent G20 statement on the Ukraine-Russia War ever coming out of the UNSC.
I agree ;) That's part of my coming article:)
I fully appreciate your human views
. Many thanks for your presented thoughts and bless you God (for me God is not in the official churches but in the nature):
Carpe Diem!
Was auch immer das dominierende "Böse" unseres einzigartigen und wunderbaren Globus mit uns vor hat:
Bleiben wir menschlich und anständig!
whatever the dominating "evil" in our singular und wonderful globe is doing and trying to do , let us stay human, helpful and kind to everyone!!!
Peter
That's the important thing! Thank you Peter!!
I don’t think you can separate the religion and ethnos from the state when it comes to Israel. It is a Jewish state.
Even for many non religious Jews still have an affinity for Israel because it is THE Jewish state.
From that perspective, and especially in times of crisis, the reaction of most is to support it, mostly unconditionally. That is on a human level understandable.
However, that’s why people group non-Israeli Jews with those living there. It’s not an irrational assessment and is born out by the facts.
Last thing, it was actually the strategy of the Zionists to scare Jews living abroad into moving to Israel, otherwise the project would have died on the vine. Theodor Hertzl the “father” of Zionism in no uncertain terms said so and was willing to accept the loss of Jewish lives for it. To him the holocaust was a gift that keeps on giving - to this day.
Jewish state? Or Zionist?
When you have your own states within your borders and everyone is Jewish with no dispute or desire to acquire more land, what’s the difference?
There is clearly quite a lot of difference.
More than a quarter of the Israeli population is not Jewish.
Aren't the Zionists forever building new settlements on Palestinian land and on the Golan?
Interesting discussion :)) Keep on guys :))
Ask any Palestinian who ist a citizen of Israel, If he likes to live in Gaza or the West Bank.
Great writing. Thank you for your valuable analysis. Enjoyable reading every time! What I can not wrap my head around is how someone can create a nation (Israel) because the suffered during WW2 (not saying the did not!) and impose something like that to the people living there. Gypsies and other minorities and nationalities suffered a lot during the WW2. Nobody gave them a country. Do we have any further reading on this matter. Google provides too short and very limited answers at glance.
This is a very interesting read:
"The Palestine Israel Conflict Was Started with the Classic British Double Dealing"
https://geopolitics.co/2023/10/09/the-palestine-israel-conflict-was-started-with-the-classic-british-double-dealing/
Thank you!
I just read it. Top stuff. I understand now. Many thanks Tirion. Great community!
For what it's worth, a Jewish friend in Toronto really despised the militant Zionists in Israel.
Most Jews I personally know despise the "Zionist" movement. I'll keep myself out of this discussion.
I think it’s similar for the many Americans who despise the neo-cons in the US who are also ideologues - ideologues have no place in Democratic governance - impractical theories have no use for real-world problem solving.
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Hi Aleks. You didn't mention the Nakba or Israeli's theft of Palestinian land, ongoing for 75 years. Consequently, this recap of the enmity between Israel and Palestine is not at all objective.
I do appreciate your other writing.
You're right. I couldn't, unfortunately, write down the whole history in detail. I wanted to make a quick overview.
But you’re absolutely right. The Nakba was absolutely part of this violent and wrong creation of the state of Israel. I highlighted that in my text, without mentioning the Nakba explicitly.
I appreciate your fair-minded reply and your illuminating commentary!
There are issues that go beyond geopolitics between the Jews and the Muslims. The major one is that the site of the temple is where the Al-Aqsa mosque currently rests.
How are they going bro rebuild the temple with the Mosque there?
This does a good job outlining the other factors: https://youtu.be/0IKCo3MVW1o?si=kO1ul2KhSeXFttWh
Yes, The Temple is fundamental to the whole picture, big and small. The puppet masters are obsessed with it.
It is my understanding that Israel has two known nuclear options - Jericho (targeted strikes) and Sampson (launch everything). I don’t understand the Gazan strategy. When they launched their attack they had to anticipate a disproportionate response against their civilian population. This appears to be phase one of a multi-phase plan. For instance, the Ford has been sucked into the arena and a second carrier group is being dispatched. Iran doesn’t have ICBMs so enticing commitment of US strategic assets into striking range might be a goal. That’s one possibility - there are several others. Israel can’t maintain their current level of mobilization for more than 60 days without long term economic damage so the clock is running
And finally (really this time) the ball is in Israel’s court. Depending on what they do next we could have a good or the worst outcome, for them as well.
I’m also still not 100% convinced that it was just Hamas being great at breaching Israeli barriers. Israel was warned by the Egyptians and if it took months of not a year to plan the operation I’d be surprised if Shin Bet or the Mossad didn’t sniff anything. Their reaction time was also too slow even if we allow for deterioration in readiness of the IDF.
Too many loose ends but I can’t rule out that Israel (Netanyahu) was aware and let it happen, regardless of the risks.
Remember, we use a Hebrew word (Chutzpah) to denote utter brazenness of action for a reason 😉
:D :D We'll see, if this is your last take haha
Just kidding, keep on, Phoenix ;)
I also tend to believe that Mossad knew something. At least bits and pieces. Maybe not the whole picture. But who knows. We'll see. I have no idea. I only know, the situation is highly dangerous.
They had so much information that they put in their Supercomputer and relied on AI. That ist what many observers think.
One last point, I checked the map of resolution 242. It still has Gaza under Palestinian control.
This unsustainable. It’s Transistria all over again. And you if you try to deprive Palestine of sea access would put them at a severe disadvantage which will start things up again (assuming they accept giving it up in the first place).
Then there’s the issue of Jerusalem.
On the face of it, it looks like resolution 242 solved everything but in reality and looking at it after everything that happened in the last 56 years - it hadn’t.
There would still be more discussions and negotiations to bridge the gap
Yes, I fully agree.
But these are issues, where we are too small :)
I think other entities need to deal with it. Such as the UN SC.
Hopefully, after the end of this war a good/better soultion will be on the table.
Who knows.
I just published my own substack on this.: https://thecausalobserver.substack.com/p/more-thoughts-about-the-palestineisrael
Thought no 1 may be of interest: Mossad must have known something. They may have erred on impact analysis and/or timing and/or magnitude, but they must have caught some hints. It is even possible that Mossad would rather let it happen now, before the US would become tied up in Taiwan and be exposed as even weaker than thought so far. (I do not think so, but I do acknowledge that it is a possibility). On the whole the timing of this operation reeks, even if no direct "order" was given from anyone of the usual suspects.
I agree. Mossad must have known something. You mentioned one scenario, which is possible. There is also a possibility, that Mossad didn't know about the scope and scale of the whole thing and didn't assess the severity high enough. Who knows? I don't know, yet.
Have you listened to this "View From Israel"?
https://rumble.com/v3o5p35-a-view-from-israel-david-icke-talks-with-israeli-freedom-and-peace-activist.html
No I have not. It is an investment of 1h22m, so maybe you can give some hints what it is about?