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Mike Mihajlovic's avatar

Hard to say, but if anyone knows, that would be the Mossad.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

If Mossad knew anything of value they would not have been so stupid as to attack Iran. Clearly dumb as buggery.

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Joe's avatar

Underground bunkers are typically constructed using reinforced concrete, steel-reinforced earth, or excavated mountain complexes. Their survivability depends on:

Depth of Burial (DOB)

Reinforcement Type

Redundant Layouts

Blast-Resistant Design

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Well done article and much appreciated

you covered it but I thought I would just add

Deflection, both natural ( granite mountain ) and man-made simply put - Reinforced concrete as a triangle in the shape of a triangle above any chamber not just a flat roof

So from what direction were the US planes approaching may make a difference a lot can make a difference

Of course the exact location of Chambers is a complete guess - one imagines Iran offsets Chambers from air ducts or entrances

...................X..................... airduct entrance

.......................[ ]....halls stairs

......................................................[ ] Chamber ...

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Kotanraju Via Znanje's avatar

Awesome write-up Mike, and smooth editing Piquet (or did Aleks move to AI? 😁😁).

We'll find out in a day or two about the veracity of these strikes. Meanwhile, retaliation awaits.

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Brenton's avatar

Good imformational article. The problem is that even if the multiple MOP attack works (as suggested by the author) and the facility is destroyed it will delay but not stop any Iranian nuclear programme. Iran did not have a military nuclear programme, but after the Israeli attack - and especially after any US attack - they will move heaven and earth to get a bomb. Netanyahu and Trump could be said to be the fathers of the Iranian bomb.

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John Day MD's avatar

Thanks Mike.

Sorry this is even more timely now than when you posted it yesterday.

;-(

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Ahenobarbus's avatar

"The USAF may launch 4-6 B-2s flying from Diego Garcia, each carrying 2 MOPs."

Given what is know re: Iranian missile technology, how likely is it that the US/Zio planes would completely avoid being destroyed within Iranian airspace?

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Mike Mihajlovic's avatar

Iran likely still holds several strategic cards in reserve. It’s entirely plausible that their most advanced systems—or “aces”—have been deliberately withheld, awaiting the moment when a major power ("the Big Guy") directly enters the conflict. This kind of calculated restraint is consistent with Iran’s strategic doctrine: preserving high-value capabilities for maximum deterrence or decisive retaliation, rather than expending them prematurely in lower-stakes confrontations.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

This is probably a larger concern than whether the MOP can destroy the facility. Everyone has known that this attack was inevitable since Trump tossed the JCPOA so the idea that the Crown Jewels of Iran’s program are still there is frankly retarded. The approach to the site is known. AD is pre positioned and camouflaged. Russia and China have advanced radars positioned to detect the bombers. The black eye from a downed B2, plus the real chance that Russia and China could get their hands on the carcass looms large in the calculus here. Again the point of this round of the conflict is to draw the US into a war that Israel cannot win alone let alone sustain for longer than a few more weeks so short of a nuke the MOP is the next best provocation. It’s all a massive risk. If Trump is indeed compromised and the Israelis are threatening to release the tapes of him fucking some child this could happen. Short of that it’s an incredible risk with only PR as a payoff.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

So now that it happened and we wait for the consequences have to wonder whether the whole thing was a charade. Clearly Iran removed anything of value from these facilities long before today. Did they let Trump hit the empty facilities to satisfy the zionists and neocons? If Iran doesn’t escalate from here we have to consider that possibility. Or Iran is weaker than they made themselves to appear and the US called their bluff. Or of course they are waiting for the right moment for their revenge after licking their wounds. Trump is threatening to continue if peace doesn’t break out from here, Iran has to see that as more credible if this wasn’t a scripted act for public consumption.

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A Skeptic's avatar

I doubt we'll ever know how they worked.

Buckle up friends. We're in it now.

America Attacks Iran

https://askeptic.substack.com/p/america-attacked-iran

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David of light's avatar

US possible lost B2 over Yugoslavia in 1999. There were some picture of wreckage felt in Croatia forrest...

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Echwin's avatar

How many loses US plan to have during this mission? Iran have around 20 SU-35 that still did not use (in underground bunkers)…

Is there any evidence that Israel planes flight over Iran? I only see drones and missiles so far…

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

I gather that it all works very well if the bunker buster can maintain trajectory and therefore power and impact, but it all goes haywire if the Iranians have built corners and detours into their structures.

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Tirion's avatar

All theater, all the time :(

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Givenroom's avatar

Asking the forbidden questions, if Mossad has penetrated the highest and deepest echelons of the Iranian Secret Services and military, in how far where they involved in the building of the tunnels protecting their nuclear programs, and most of all…where they adding to the accelerated production of their nuclear missiles or retarding it? MPO they were putting it forward then it could be sold as a real threat to the world, needed to be obliterated asap.

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Tirion's avatar

You're referring to Iran's nuclear program, or Israel's?!

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Givenroom's avatar

Iran’s, why shouldn’t the impossible not be the possible, why got Hamas a free entry to Israel, and why is Khamenei still alive and all those around dead, they could have taken him out years ago.

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Steve's avatar

Iran ‘nuclear missiles’?! 😵‍💫

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Givenroom's avatar

With the help of the Mossad and Russia, why not?

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Tirion's avatar

All valid questions, yes. It's all theater, all the time, isn't it?!

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Givenroom's avatar

Off the record, you think after mullah Khomenei is droned or put aside, Iran will get along with a more resonant CIA-Mossad world?

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Tirion's avatar

Yup! A secular, "democratic" Iran would do nicely ;)

https://www.rezapahlavi.org/

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Givenroom's avatar

For how long, same for Syria?

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Givenroom's avatar

Theatre making more victims than a real war, wars now are fought in very strange ways, besides who’s the enemy and where he is hiding…Washington, Tel Aviv, Kiev, Teheran, Moskou, London, Beijing,…our DNA?

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