For better or worse, the West's undisguised habit of sponsoring terrorists and neo-nazis, and giving them wide latitude to do the predictable, have started to cure the RF government of such misconceptions
I respectfully disagree that they have little stomach for the fight. This is a war of attrition against a people they essentially consider to be Russian, as Aleks has pointed out before. They're trying to preserve what civilian life and property they can, demilitarizing the equipment and taking on as many POWs as will surrender, even advertising a radio frequency to call to surrender. Any opportunity they have to wipe out the Azov battalions and foreign mercs, they take with relish. Minsk-1 and Minsk-2 were a mistake of trusting the West. They won't make that mistake again. Having read Putin's address in full, he's got much bigger things on his mind, and I think the BRICS+ will succeed in this.
Be patient my friend. We can not know what people who lead Russia know and want. We are all impatiently waiting for good outcome of this conflict, hoping the good will prevail. But it's a hard fight. The evil side also has some smart people among themselves. I'm sure it would be done quickly if it was possible to do it safely for the world and humanity.
"The Ukrainian people need to know that the deaths of their relatives could end tomorrow if their government enters negotiations. The “government,” of course, can’t since it is controlled by the West."
Everyone in Ukraine already knows this and has known it for a long time. Nobody will ask them their opinion, any more than farmers ask veal calves their preferences.
King George absolutely had state secret service/intelligence. Every monarch since Queen Elizabeth has, the world's longest continuous national intelligence apparatus, AFAIK.
Thank you. Will check that out- Some of the commentary on how the British intelligence & diplomatic corps played their game between WWI and WWII in Henri de Monfreid's
There certainly wasn't anything institutionalized like what is at Zelenskii's disposal, and it's not as if George could have dissenters disappeared at will.
See Christian McBurney, "Abductions in the American Revolution: Attempts to Kidnap George Washington, Benedict Arnold and Other Military and Civilian Leaders" (2016)
It would of course be nice but unrealistic, if Ukrainian population were to dispose of their criminal leadership. But large scale withholding of cooperation with Kiev's suicide mission is also a meaningful factor
They aren't being asked whether they want to cooperate, any more than the Banderites that they so love asked the Jews whether they would kindly step into this waiting cattle car.
The Biden Administration is just desperate to keep the conflict going until its election in November. It can't let Ukraine collapse before then as that would spell electoral disaster.
Odessa is owned by zionists de facto..why do you think Macron has on obsession about it? Because jew neocon khazar BHL is French real MFA not lgbt idiot 'séjourné' who is not even able to write his native language correctly., Macron is controlled by Rothschild even RN Bardella le pen is now official zio party which is an umost stupidity as they don't have 0.1 % of the people voting for them who are jews, they are white or blue collars former socialist communist electorate betrayed by all left zio controlled parties.There are 8 millions muslims in France and maybe 350k jews (real or khazars). The war and coming WWIII is not Russia against Ukraine or EU or G7 or even US or Nato but against zionists it started in 1917.
Aleks, seems to me that you are right here in the sense that the Russian narrative now is to convince the Ukrainian people/military that they are being used. Of course they will never be able to persaude all of them, but there may come a tipping point when there is a [reverse colour] revolution?
And I think the UAF is sufferring c 2,000 casualties per day just now. I am using a rule of thumb that every "front" the RF opens costs the UAF c 1,000 per day. So I expect now another front to open, maybe two or three. My personal opinion is that this thing will approach a crisis much sooner than most think - my guess is by September. And all the wunderwaffe in the world won't change this.
Rest assured the West will never negotiate if it imagines there is half a chance to attack and degrade Russia. The UK ruling class is obsessed with defeating Russia in the context of the systemic threat to the provenance of the West’s Finance Capitalist System and relegation of the western elites to a sideshow. Their panic is betrayed by their lack of any calculated risk aversion or assessment, fortunately for us brainwashed sheep in the UK ignorant and uncaring the World’s premier leader and diplomat Vladimir Putin is at the helm, steering us all through the most dangerous and turbulent days at stake no less is the survival of the species. No thanks or kudos to the Western elites distinguished by their avarice and contempt for the rest of us!
Agree 100 % it's only posturing for ukr and external people.. But I believe that all the people worldwide already have an idea or position and nothing would change that position. Time to end the cockroaches 😉
The Russian leadership does not want this war. They were given no choice. It's existential. However, they are not "desperate". That's the current issue. No one is desperate enough...yet. Want to bet on who goes "desperate" first?
Russia appears not to want indiscriminate killing of their close relatives and has some interest in (quickly as possible) re establishing political & economic stability in the areas they will assimilate. As opposed to our US general tactics of "it blowed up real big, then well connected people in our private sector skimmed the reconstruction money off while not doing much actual reconstructing".
Go look up the bloody history of every empire since Alexander of Macedon that ever made the mistake of trying to own those valleys. Being "nice" to Chechens only gets you as much of their land as it takes to bury you.
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Russian terms never improve. Ukraine will not exist, and cannot exist, in its current form. It will be a rump of a country, full of Bandera, and the EU have it.
I well remember Dmitry Orlov making that exact prediction of how the western interference in Ukraine would shake out, before he moved back to Russia in disgust. Must have been 9 or 10 years ago.
I miss Dmitry. And rather expect his prediction of the USA following the USSR into a national collapse for much the same reason will also play out as he predicted-
Even if Russia were to withdraw from all formerly Ukrainian territory today, the West would not make peace but would demand more.
What Russia sees as reasonableness and humanitarianism, the West sees as contemptible weakness.
For better or worse, the West's undisguised habit of sponsoring terrorists and neo-nazis, and giving them wide latitude to do the predictable, have started to cure the RF government of such misconceptions
I have seen no evidence of this.
That Russia is still talking what is in essence a Minsk-3 should tell you how little stomach Russia has for this fight.
I respectfully disagree that they have little stomach for the fight. This is a war of attrition against a people they essentially consider to be Russian, as Aleks has pointed out before. They're trying to preserve what civilian life and property they can, demilitarizing the equipment and taking on as many POWs as will surrender, even advertising a radio frequency to call to surrender. Any opportunity they have to wipe out the Azov battalions and foreign mercs, they take with relish. Minsk-1 and Minsk-2 were a mistake of trusting the West. They won't make that mistake again. Having read Putin's address in full, he's got much bigger things on his mind, and I think the BRICS+ will succeed in this.
The Ukrainians obviously don't see it that way, at leastif membership in The Club is dangled out.
At risk of repeating myself- does Russia want to be nice or does Russia want to win? Because their enemies will not hesitate to play dirty.
Be patient my friend. We can not know what people who lead Russia know and want. We are all impatiently waiting for good outcome of this conflict, hoping the good will prevail. But it's a hard fight. The evil side also has some smart people among themselves. I'm sure it would be done quickly if it was possible to do it safely for the world and humanity.
Hope is not much of a strategy.
"The Ukrainian people need to know that the deaths of their relatives could end tomorrow if their government enters negotiations. The “government,” of course, can’t since it is controlled by the West."
Everyone in Ukraine already knows this and has known it for a long time. Nobody will ask them their opinion, any more than farmers ask veal calves their preferences.
That's what King George III thought.
King George didn't have a secret police, nor could he dangle out membership in The Club as a reward for staying the course.
@Feral Finster
King George absolutely had state secret service/intelligence. Every monarch since Queen Elizabeth has, the world's longest continuous national intelligence apparatus, AFAIK.
Code and secrets Simon Singh if I may suggest is a good book even if old
@Marco
Thank you. Will check that out- Some of the commentary on how the British intelligence & diplomatic corps played their game between WWI and WWII in Henri de Monfreid's
"Pearls Arms & Hashish" may also be enlightening.
https://read.amazon.com/sample/B07BX1BR2V?f=1&l=en_US&r=955c06c4&rid=J9NVKR98FYEMHDDNEPQS&sid=146-1165571-1161623&cid=A39NJMOJTX1THZ&ref_=litb_m
There certainly wasn't anything institutionalized like what is at Zelenskii's disposal, and it's not as if George could have dissenters disappeared at will.
@Feral Finster
Au contraire-
See Christian McBurney, "Abductions in the American Revolution: Attempts to Kidnap George Washington, Benedict Arnold and Other Military and Civilian Leaders" (2016)
https://read.amazon.com/sample/B01ENXZNF6?f=1&l=en_US&r=9c9acd78&rid=QNYDDWCBNCDJ65HWWKYQ&sid=146-1165571-1161623&cid=A39NJMOJTX1THZ&ref_=litb_m
Tell us more about the secret police and their efforts at mass suppression of dissent.
It would of course be nice but unrealistic, if Ukrainian population were to dispose of their criminal leadership. But large scale withholding of cooperation with Kiev's suicide mission is also a meaningful factor
They aren't being asked whether they want to cooperate, any more than the Banderites that they so love asked the Jews whether they would kindly step into this waiting cattle car.
They aren't being asked whether they want to cooperate, any more than the American people are.
Nope. Nor will they be asked.
The Biden Administration is just desperate to keep the conflict going until its election in November. It can't let Ukraine collapse before then as that would spell electoral disaster.
I believe the real masters of the game care not who wins the show for masses - elections.
Odessa. Odessa! Toujours Odessa!! All roads lead to Odessa.
Odessa is the fulcrum. Odessa is in the linchpin. Odessa is the key to eastern Europe (sans the stupid Baltics).
Odessa and Buda-Pest! Odessa and Bratislava. Because Odessa is Trans-Nistra!
Odessa is Crimea. Odessa is the Black Sea. Odessa is Sebastopol.
Odessa is Novorossiya.
Odessa is owned by zionists de facto..why do you think Macron has on obsession about it? Because jew neocon khazar BHL is French real MFA not lgbt idiot 'séjourné' who is not even able to write his native language correctly., Macron is controlled by Rothschild even RN Bardella le pen is now official zio party which is an umost stupidity as they don't have 0.1 % of the people voting for them who are jews, they are white or blue collars former socialist communist electorate betrayed by all left zio controlled parties.There are 8 millions muslims in France and maybe 350k jews (real or khazars). The war and coming WWIII is not Russia against Ukraine or EU or G7 or even US or Nato but against zionists it started in 1917.
Aleks, seems to me that you are right here in the sense that the Russian narrative now is to convince the Ukrainian people/military that they are being used. Of course they will never be able to persaude all of them, but there may come a tipping point when there is a [reverse colour] revolution?
And I think the UAF is sufferring c 2,000 casualties per day just now. I am using a rule of thumb that every "front" the RF opens costs the UAF c 1,000 per day. So I expect now another front to open, maybe two or three. My personal opinion is that this thing will approach a crisis much sooner than most think - my guess is by September. And all the wunderwaffe in the world won't change this.
Thank You, Aleks. Busy with work and family.
I wish the best for you.
I will excerpt and link to this in the post I am putting together now.
Rest assured the West will never negotiate if it imagines there is half a chance to attack and degrade Russia. The UK ruling class is obsessed with defeating Russia in the context of the systemic threat to the provenance of the West’s Finance Capitalist System and relegation of the western elites to a sideshow. Their panic is betrayed by their lack of any calculated risk aversion or assessment, fortunately for us brainwashed sheep in the UK ignorant and uncaring the World’s premier leader and diplomat Vladimir Putin is at the helm, steering us all through the most dangerous and turbulent days at stake no less is the survival of the species. No thanks or kudos to the Western elites distinguished by their avarice and contempt for the rest of us!
Agree 100 % it's only posturing for ukr and external people.. But I believe that all the people worldwide already have an idea or position and nothing would change that position. Time to end the cockroaches 😉
The problem is that the Russian leadership really does not want this war and desperately hope that it just goes away somehow.
The Russian leadership does not want this war. They were given no choice. It's existential. However, they are not "desperate". That's the current issue. No one is desperate enough...yet. Want to bet on who goes "desperate" first?
@Feral Finster
SIR! Do you accuse them of possessing sanity or of humane behavior?! Or BOTH?!!! For shame...
Does Russia want to be nice or do they want to win? As it is, all they are doing is getting people killed for no good reason.
@Feral Finster
That smells a bit like concern trolling.
Russia appears not to want indiscriminate killing of their close relatives and has some interest in (quickly as possible) re establishing political & economic stability in the areas they will assimilate. As opposed to our US general tactics of "it blowed up real big, then well connected people in our private sector skimmed the reconstruction money off while not doing much actual reconstructing".
This is far from concern trolling. Look at how Russia treated the insurgency in Chechnya. They were not nice in their pacification efforts.
Go look up the bloody history of every empire since Alexander of Macedon that ever made the mistake of trying to own those valleys. Being "nice" to Chechens only gets you as much of their land as it takes to bury you.
At ever junction of thought, you sir, always seem to take the wrong turn.
I fear you are right Sir
In a world full of hopium, copium and downright falsehoods from of the Western presstitutes, your sober and rational analysis is very welcome to me.
The formality of making an offer to duel and having the seconds attempt to apologize. It will come down to bullets.
@Argo the Second
"Your challenge was unnecessarily verbose. You just scream and leap.”
Why use words when blades will suffice?
My, pal of the far ~ away lands. Across the pond, yet I hang on your every word. May your gifts, aka, enjoyment/employment provide all good things for your beautiful family. May you move through these times with grace and ease. I have been up, in, the high country. The deep waters and towering trees, prior to breaking thru to sub alpine areas. See forever. I send all good things to you, your beloved family/team. GodSpeed, best in all~ways. 💙🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺💙
The Swiss Cheese 🧀 Summit, was full of holes.
Congrats on the new job!
Russian terms never improve. Ukraine will not exist, and cannot exist, in its current form. It will be a rump of a country, full of Bandera, and the EU have it.
I well remember Dmitry Orlov making that exact prediction of how the western interference in Ukraine would shake out, before he moved back to Russia in disgust. Must have been 9 or 10 years ago.
I miss Dmitry. And rather expect his prediction of the USA following the USSR into a national collapse for much the same reason will also play out as he predicted-
"Social Collapse Best Practices"
https://youtu.be/kySDKESt3_M?si=sWFTd-9YaDmTUYaw
He’s done some recent interviews on YT. Search his name but sometimes you get the hockey player 😂
Thanks, glad he is speaking publicly again.
Here you go, friend. 6 days ago..
https://youtu.be/YCwrIj3f3ZE?si=fOdcmZ8E1BTV203G
Yeah he often guests on Nima's channel. He's brilliant.
He is; I follow Orlov, stealth like, silent, yet eyes wide open.💙🇷🇺❤️
Aleks, your analysis is perfect. You have summed it up so logically. Nobody could have said it better. Thank you very much for this article.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious - so you wonder why you said you read every comment :)