Rerouting lot of troops, in front of the world (read US), for a Kharkov offensive (encirclement) is a simple and logical explanation for the events. Otherwise…too many crazy scenarios.
Unfortunately will not happen, prigohzin is a nato asset, even ultra anti VP famous oligarch in exile in London, kodorkosky supported him this morning.
If Prigozhin and his allies take control, I'm heading for a hole in the ground, because that is where most of us will end up. All bets on continued sanity are off.
Hello... My uninformed take... more questions than answers...
A) Prig can be a lunatic/bipolar/whatever, but...he's a figurehead. An actor playing his role against the coke actor.
The REAL military commanders of Wagner (former/detached RuAF officers) are following him? His friends/sponsors in the RuAF are following him or agree with him?
B) We live in dangerous moments as the unhinged Neocons keep blabbering... maybe a counter blabbering to have them to reassess all their plans so gaining time before this damn July 11th?
C) Has he some real motives against Shoigu/Stavka or it's only posturing? Now this, just few steps before Ukie AF collapsing? Only they know... but timing is quite strange.
D) Trying to expose the internal 5th and 6th columns?
E) Crazy psyop countermove against the Zapo false flag crazy idea???
F) If it is maskirovska (and can easily be..) what for? Explain some sudden heavy troops movements that the enemy can see via Keyholes? imagine a lot of red dots appearing suddenly on the screens... which one is the real intended one... and, if such keyholes focalise on a zone, will they lack cover on other zones? Only they know the specifics...
G) And as an afterthought... Putin's own final warning for Neocons/MI6 provocations... Look... stop provoking us... anger boiling here... or worse people could do what I wasn't willing to do up now...
Aleks... yes, I wouldn't like to be an Ucrainian now... poor people. :( Do they realize that they are dying for London and Nulands????
I doubt that this could be some kind of power struggle especially because Prigozhin owes practically everything to VVP. Some move aimed at Shoigu, that's possible. But whatever it is, VVP clearly said that it's enough now.
Which means for me that the ball is in the hand of Prigozhin and his soldiers, which was likely the purpose...
I don't see this being left without consequences (given the trouble that it might create), and I bet there are some reasons to this that no one knows about.
Meanwhile in Moscow, at least in my area (south) all is calm
Something else... I come from Switzerland. I am 60 and have a sensational medium. She is over 80 and has a frightening hit rate. Would say better than 95%.
I have spoken to her several times about summer vacations. I asked her about neighboring countries, e.g. France, Germany, Austria and Italy. For months she says that nothing will come of it (August), all borders would be closed. It would be impossible to travel abroad. She also says that in the summer there would be great fear among the population. Likewise it looks very very bad straight for Germany/Poland and the Balts. One should not go there under any circumstances. Very great danger.
I always wondered why. Corona is no more. Whether new Plandemie in the approach or nevertheless still an extension of the war? Yes, since today it is clearer to me.
Fact is:
- Ukraine's counteroffensive is a total failure. They have not even managed 100 meters and have already destroyed almost half of their equipment. No chance to do anything here.
- NATO always says that defeat is impossible. Would herald disintegration.
- Therefore, nothing can be done militarily against Russia. Even an invasion of the Poles or the whole NATO would not change the result. For NATO it is lost.
What remains then? Yes terror!
That can concern the nuclear power plant in Ukraine, dirty bomb or what we see now, with Prigone. But am clearly of the opinion and trust my medium, the summer could unfortunately become very very hot. Especially since the neocons in the U.S. also slowly but surely run amok and are unfortunately ready for anything. They want war, that's for sure.
Helps probably currently only hope and pray and hope that moderate forces prevail everywhere. Until now, I always had great confidence in Putin. Hope he gets enough support at home.
Like I said, what a bummer of a distraction to the Musk & Zuckerburg cage fight! I can't believe Prigozhin, with his theatre antics, would play right into the hands of the Western MSM & allow Victoria "THE WITCH" Nuland to wet her pants. I am in agreement that punishment needs to be dealt out to the West, especially the U.K. & Poland for what they did to South Africa. And I hear Romania wants to be the launching pad for the F-16s. The West are rabid lunatics that need to be dealt with harshly & even I'm (in the USA) getting frustrated that U.K. isn't delivered a blow. I know President Putin is the only adult in the room, but he's dealing with fanatical idealogues that don't understand reason. I'm all for a first strike on the U.K. & I can't imagine the frustration of the soldiers having to deal with NATO weapons killing their mates & President Putin's patience would be maddening. No one is unpatriotic but seeing your mates killed over & over again by NATO weapon without retaliation is beyond frustration & I really feel for Wagner. They've been in the fight longer & on the front lines in the most brutal way possible. I really feel for them, & I hope President Putin understand that 60% of the world is on Russia's side but are pretty tired of him staying his hand. I offered Washington D.C., New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, or Los Angeles...It would be a MERCY!! And seriously, 80% of Americans DESPISE CRIME-EM BRIBE-EM COP-A-FEEL SLEEPY CREEPY POOPY PISS PANTS LOSER PRESIDENTIAL DISASTER JOETATO!!! Americans are HELD HOSTAGE to the INSANITY, & we're hoping for a DELIVERANCE!!! Light 'em UP!!!
The idea that this is all part of an incredibly elaborate ruse going back months is too absurd. And timed right when Ukraine suffers a comprehensive defeat that nobody can deny.
I have stopped kidding myself, Feral, im sure this is overall real, and maybe Prigozhin was baited into this, but I still suspect there is more to this than what we're seeing.
"I’m fully convinced (I could be wrong) that all parties involved are patriots. The political leadership, the military leadership and the PMC Wagner"
Carefully with that kind of thinking; even those in favour of ending the war, capitulation to NATO, or even outright balkanization of Russia itself would say they are patriots who simply disagree how Russia should be managed and the other side are the real traitors.
I think Prigohzin has gone insane after killing so many. An insane power struggle for what? More killing rather than a sensibly reasoned goal of achieving a multipolar world?
He’s come off the rails . It happens and it isn’t pleasant to look upon insanity of one you’ve known for a long while.
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When General Ratko Mladić took office in 1993, one of the first decisions was to disband all volunteer units and place them under the command of the VRS, those who did not want to disarm and leave the Republika Srpska in an organized manner. It was a wise decision that greatly benefited the entire battlefield. Until the end of the war, the VRS remained a single system. The army is just like a fist on a hand. If one finger reacts arbitrarily, the whole hand is without function.
Rerouting lot of troops, in front of the world (read US), for a Kharkov offensive (encirclement) is a simple and logical explanation for the events. Otherwise…too many crazy scenarios.
Quietly I also praying for exactly this scenario.
On Slavyangrad: https://t.me/Slavyangrad/52192
Unfortunately will not happen, prigohzin is a nato asset, even ultra anti VP famous oligarch in exile in London, kodorkosky supported him this morning.
One thing I find very interesting is that Kadyrov has not said a word on Telegram.
Indeed
We hear nothing from Medvedev either... also suspicious. Otherwise he is on the air day and night!
That's right. Interesting fact as well.
Done minutes ago.
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1259297
Kadyrov comes forward and stands 100% behind Putin!
Even Erdogan (he knows what a coup is indeed..) lol
And the Guardians of Iranian revolution who just offered their services to liquidate the traitor (they also have some experience in the matter).
If Prigozhin and his allies take control, I'm heading for a hole in the ground, because that is where most of us will end up. All bets on continued sanity are off.
copied from the other update...
Hello... My uninformed take... more questions than answers...
A) Prig can be a lunatic/bipolar/whatever, but...he's a figurehead. An actor playing his role against the coke actor.
The REAL military commanders of Wagner (former/detached RuAF officers) are following him? His friends/sponsors in the RuAF are following him or agree with him?
B) We live in dangerous moments as the unhinged Neocons keep blabbering... maybe a counter blabbering to have them to reassess all their plans so gaining time before this damn July 11th?
C) Has he some real motives against Shoigu/Stavka or it's only posturing? Now this, just few steps before Ukie AF collapsing? Only they know... but timing is quite strange.
D) Trying to expose the internal 5th and 6th columns?
E) Crazy psyop countermove against the Zapo false flag crazy idea???
F) If it is maskirovska (and can easily be..) what for? Explain some sudden heavy troops movements that the enemy can see via Keyholes? imagine a lot of red dots appearing suddenly on the screens... which one is the real intended one... and, if such keyholes focalise on a zone, will they lack cover on other zones? Only they know the specifics...
G) And as an afterthought... Putin's own final warning for Neocons/MI6 provocations... Look... stop provoking us... anger boiling here... or worse people could do what I wasn't willing to do up now...
Aleks... yes, I wouldn't like to be an Ucrainian now... poor people. :( Do they realize that they are dying for London and Nulands????
If it's not maskirova this time, then what was it before? Why wasn't he shut down sooner, when he was mouthing off?
Mouthing off & luring Ukes into the grinder, each time escalating his behavior, has been the pattern.
Once again, all eyes are on Prighozin. 🤷
I doubt that this could be some kind of power struggle especially because Prigozhin owes practically everything to VVP. Some move aimed at Shoigu, that's possible. But whatever it is, VVP clearly said that it's enough now.
Which means for me that the ball is in the hand of Prigozhin and his soldiers, which was likely the purpose...
I don't see this being left without consequences (given the trouble that it might create), and I bet there are some reasons to this that no one knows about.
Meanwhile in Moscow, at least in my area (south) all is calm
Note that prigozhin never attack VP directly, he never even mentionned him.
Something else... I come from Switzerland. I am 60 and have a sensational medium. She is over 80 and has a frightening hit rate. Would say better than 95%.
I have spoken to her several times about summer vacations. I asked her about neighboring countries, e.g. France, Germany, Austria and Italy. For months she says that nothing will come of it (August), all borders would be closed. It would be impossible to travel abroad. She also says that in the summer there would be great fear among the population. Likewise it looks very very bad straight for Germany/Poland and the Balts. One should not go there under any circumstances. Very great danger.
I always wondered why. Corona is no more. Whether new Plandemie in the approach or nevertheless still an extension of the war? Yes, since today it is clearer to me.
Fact is:
- Ukraine's counteroffensive is a total failure. They have not even managed 100 meters and have already destroyed almost half of their equipment. No chance to do anything here.
- NATO always says that defeat is impossible. Would herald disintegration.
- Therefore, nothing can be done militarily against Russia. Even an invasion of the Poles or the whole NATO would not change the result. For NATO it is lost.
What remains then? Yes terror!
That can concern the nuclear power plant in Ukraine, dirty bomb or what we see now, with Prigone. But am clearly of the opinion and trust my medium, the summer could unfortunately become very very hot. Especially since the neocons in the U.S. also slowly but surely run amok and are unfortunately ready for anything. They want war, that's for sure.
Helps probably currently only hope and pray and hope that moderate forces prevail everywhere. Until now, I always had great confidence in Putin. Hope he gets enough support at home.
Greetings from Switzerland.
Maybe they will (nato + ukies) not strike at ZNPP but to this one at the rear of Odessa.
NOT Zaporozhye NPP . . . South Ukraine NPP ??? - Being Used to Store US Weapons and Intelligence HQ
This site is not very reliable but sometime he is right.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/not-zaporozhye-npp-south-ukraine-npp-being-used-to-store-us-weapons-and-intelligence-hq
I did have a medium medium once, now I have a small medium, and a large medium.
Like I said, what a bummer of a distraction to the Musk & Zuckerburg cage fight! I can't believe Prigozhin, with his theatre antics, would play right into the hands of the Western MSM & allow Victoria "THE WITCH" Nuland to wet her pants. I am in agreement that punishment needs to be dealt out to the West, especially the U.K. & Poland for what they did to South Africa. And I hear Romania wants to be the launching pad for the F-16s. The West are rabid lunatics that need to be dealt with harshly & even I'm (in the USA) getting frustrated that U.K. isn't delivered a blow. I know President Putin is the only adult in the room, but he's dealing with fanatical idealogues that don't understand reason. I'm all for a first strike on the U.K. & I can't imagine the frustration of the soldiers having to deal with NATO weapons killing their mates & President Putin's patience would be maddening. No one is unpatriotic but seeing your mates killed over & over again by NATO weapon without retaliation is beyond frustration & I really feel for Wagner. They've been in the fight longer & on the front lines in the most brutal way possible. I really feel for them, & I hope President Putin understand that 60% of the world is on Russia's side but are pretty tired of him staying his hand. I offered Washington D.C., New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, or Los Angeles...It would be a MERCY!! And seriously, 80% of Americans DESPISE CRIME-EM BRIBE-EM COP-A-FEEL SLEEPY CREEPY POOPY PISS PANTS LOSER PRESIDENTIAL DISASTER JOETATO!!! Americans are HELD HOSTAGE to the INSANITY, & we're hoping for a DELIVERANCE!!! Light 'em UP!!!
The idea that this is all part of an incredibly elaborate ruse going back months is too absurd. And timed right when Ukraine suffers a comprehensive defeat that nobody can deny.
Stop kidding yourselves.
I have stopped kidding myself, Feral, im sure this is overall real, and maybe Prigozhin was baited into this, but I still suspect there is more to this than what we're seeing.
Keep in mind. Wagner and its leaders are basically mercenaries a k a businessmen, they follow the money no ideological loyalty.
"I’m fully convinced (I could be wrong) that all parties involved are patriots. The political leadership, the military leadership and the PMC Wagner"
Carefully with that kind of thinking; even those in favour of ending the war, capitulation to NATO, or even outright balkanization of Russia itself would say they are patriots who simply disagree how Russia should be managed and the other side are the real traitors.
I can’t help but wonder if Prigozhin has been fed some fake intel from the CIA or MI6, or something?
His disconnect from reality on the ground is hard to square otherwise.
It’s also hard to believe that he came to all of these false conclusions on his own, without being fed some false intel.
Either way, this is a very weird, almost inexplicable series of events… I’m really scratching my head.
I think Prigohzin has gone insane after killing so many. An insane power struggle for what? More killing rather than a sensibly reasoned goal of achieving a multipolar world?
He’s come off the rails . It happens and it isn’t pleasant to look upon insanity of one you’ve known for a long while.
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Russian forces are unable to conquer tiny Avdeevka for so long. Something is wrong and calling wagnerians traitors will not change this.
When General Ratko Mladić took office in 1993, one of the first decisions was to disband all volunteer units and place them under the command of the VRS, those who did not want to disarm and leave the Republika Srpska in an organized manner. It was a wise decision that greatly benefited the entire battlefield. Until the end of the war, the VRS remained a single system. The army is just like a fist on a hand. If one finger reacts arbitrarily, the whole hand is without function.